Oh my. Memories! I remember visiting Bethal with friends as a young woman and the mother bringing homemade maple syrup to John! Governing Body worship...it happens!
kitten whiskers
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is john barr still alive
by joelingeorgia inare ted and john the last of the old guard?
is john still alive?
its interesting to see these people who shaped my beliefs and life for so long now dying..
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When love dies...
by JustHuman14 inin my mind lately this thought is spinning round and round.
can you find real love in the wt world?
i guess you cant.
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kitten whiskers
I'm sorry to say, this may be the majority of marriages in Watchtower world, but it definitly isn't all relationships! Hubby and I are out and happy. We used the watchtower guidelines to find a "suitable mate", but it was true love baby! Neither one of us was going to "settle" with just a JW mate. I wanted it all and got more than I dreamed possible!
I wish you all the best in your search for love! I am so sorry that so many didn't find what we did. But not all are like that! Just so you know and can have some hope for folks!
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A 3.5 hr round trip...
by Gregor infrom our house to dry creek falls.
very hot today, we should have started earlier, but when we got to the falls it was like air conditioning.
on the way back we startled a full grown black bear in the berry bushes.
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kitten whiskers
It does sound very exciting and beautiful...and startling! Yikes! At least there weren't any lions and tigers with the bears...OH MY!
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i think my df son needs your help...kicked to the curb at 17...
by oompa inhe is a good example of what dubs think happens to all who leave da troof.....he has floundered in life, but he was as a teen dub too....he had lost of emotional problems and really hated authority figures....school problems a nightmare starting at 13...then counseling and tons of meds......the dunked for a gf at 16.....and kicked out at 17...it has been five years.
i hate to admit it but back then i urged him to "go to the elders".....when dfd....i told him and others "it was for his own good".....was that party line or what!?!?!??!.
now......i am trying to get him to see what a mindfuck it is to lose your entire social structure at that age!!!!
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kitten whiskers
Getting kicked out, at an emotionally vulnerable age, must be so hard. So much harder than leaving as an adult.
Have you told him how wrong they were and how you feel bad about how you handled the situation? It may help him see that there is no need for any guilt.
I wish you all the best! Find a little routine to do with him maybe. Coffee every morning at a breakfast place, with casual conversation about the lies you've discovered in Watchtower world and what made you leave. Things you wish you could have done for him. Maybe just hearing your heartfelt wishes will help him overcome. I hope so.
In a side note...you can go 6.5 minutes before screaming BS? Wow Oompa! You have me beat! I can't drive by the local hall without doing that in my car!
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Good-bye Everyone
by cognac insome of you have been like family to me.
yet, it's time that i must say good-bye.
my husband and i have chosen to study the scriptures together on two conditions:.
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kitten whiskers
Ignore the cookie monster avatar poster! He must have gotten cookies that had Splenda instead of sugar! (I assume he/she was kidding!)
Anyway, I think this is wonderful!
When you stop reading literature that interprets the bible for you, and you rely on God's Spirit without outside influences, it is AMAZING!
I felt so guilty going to Border's bookstore to look in the religious section to buy a new bible. But I found one with four translation versions that I fell in love with! You can read them side by side and get a better feel for the scriptures. Pray. Pray hard and really let God work with you. Reading in the morning, with the sun shining on you and a cup of coffee in hand in a quiet house is truly a gift from God. You will find that as you read and let God lead you, it is as if he is sitting next to you, with his arm around you, guiding you and showing what the scriptures say and really mean. I never had such an experience as a JW. It will change your life! God bless and guide you as you enjoy a most precious time together.
Don't feel bad about leaving the board! We will miss your discussions...but we know you are happy and working for the good of your family! And that's what real friends want for you and yours! I'm so happy you and hubby are taking this opportunity. You may find you can't put the bible down and continue reading a whole book in one sitting because it is so interesting and you see things in such a different light. It's not an assignment now, it's a pleasure and an adventure. Enjoy!
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kitten whiskers
The kids would never give the computer back if I showed them this! LOL!
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The bad dreams are back again...
by Pandoras cat11 ini know dreams are our brains way of dealing with problems or situations that are occuring in our life.
the experts say it is healthy and to an extent i believe this.
how can it be healthy when you wake up shaking and trying to mouth "jehovah" or "help".
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kitten whiskers
The worst dream I had...my beloved and dearly departed was chasing me. I wound up in a swimming pool trying to get away because he was chasing me with a hand gun. When I got to the edge of the pool to get out, he was there, pointing the gun...bang. I woke up before the bullet hit my forehead.
That scared me. I loved grandpa (non-jw) and he loved me. It freaked me out. I thought it was because of my doubts and that scripture about family turning on family and giving them up.
I never had it again...but I can relate to being scared to death in a dream! I am so sorry. I hope they go away. If you pray, have you tried praying about your dreams before you drift off?
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When Did You First Get Exposed To "Apostate" Info? How Did It Affect You?
by minimus inas a kid, i used to read all the watchtowers of the 40s and 50s to see how the present day information developed from its original "thought".
i was exposed to many eye opening statements but i swept them under the carpet (although it stayed in the recesses of my brain) until the time was right.. so for me, it was a gradual thing.. how were you affected by your first encounters with "apostate" material?
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kitten whiskers
I saw protesters back when I was younger at District conventions, but never paid them any attention.
But when I typed ex-jw into google and landed on freeminds and jwd. I shook with fear at my step outside the Borg. I was terrified of being struck down.
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In the past 20 years, have you seen a balanced, educated adult not raised by JW parents get baptized as a JW?
by BonaFide ini am not criticizing those who have gone through depression or a traumatic experience.
nor am i criticizing those who were raised as a witness as i was.. but i am curious to know if any of you have seen a person from the territory, not a relative of a witness, no recent tragedies or emotional problems, not a young runaway, not a drug user, but an educated adult who began a study with jehovah's witnesses, and eventually got baptized.. when i was a missionary, i met a gilead couple who had been in their assignment for 19 years.
i asked them about that.
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kitten whiskers
There was one couple (both college graduates with great jobs, living in a nice house and nice neighborhood...you know, the ones that born in jws can't afford or those counting on the end in their lifetime never made preparations for) that joined about 10-12 years ago.
It always baffled hubby and I what drew them. They seemed to have great family ties in the area. I remember the husband saying once that they were looking for a new church, and didn't care for the Lutheran one they tried.
I was sure when they were first coming, the wife was just going along with her husband. She was quiet and reserved and very sweet and respectful of him. They waited to get baptised together. Their oldest just graduated. I still wonder why, with all the chance of searching out the religion, that they fell for it. It never made sense to me.
They brought a lot to the congregation. The husband was a total, sweet goofball. Boy scout material all the way. He brought some fun for the brothers and their sons. He planned camping trips for dads and sons and they still take them every year. It's a tradition for them all now. Definitely something Watchtower wouldn't endorse! But thankfully, he brought some joy and comraderie to these little boys who were being left behind in so many ways! I wonder how long they will stay, or if it will just become comfortable. It must have been very hard on them, the boys were about 6 and 8 when they joined. Bye bye holidays!
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Prominent Baptist Quits Due to Treatment of Women
by rebel8 injimmy carter leaves church over treatment of womenhttp://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/20/jimmy-carter-leaves-church-over-treatment-of-women/.
after more than 60 years together, jimmy carter has announced himself at odds with the southern baptist church -- and he's decided it's time they go their separate ways.
via feministing, the former president called the decision "unavoidable" after church leaders prohibited women from being ordained and insisted women be "subservient to their husbands.
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kitten whiskers
Good for him. It is hard for any person to leave their religion.